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#61218 - 09/16/08 10:57 AM Christ's return
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Thoughts on the second coming of Christ...

Are we done once it happens?

What happens afterward?

What exactly are we waiting for?

Why are we here?

Where are we going?
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#61219 - 09/17/08 10:31 PM Re: Christ's return [Re: Joel33]
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Are we done once it happens?

Done what?

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What happens afterward?
We will all be perfect in an instant with glorified bodies.

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What exactly are we waiting for?

What do you mean? Do you mean what are we waiting for now?

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Why are we here?
We are here to be loved by God and to love God.

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Where are we going?
We are going to eternal life in the celestial kingdom.
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#61224 - 09/19/08 10:19 AM Re: Christ's return [Re: Echo]
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Please don't use Mormon-speak - this is a Christian website and we should use terms that are universal here. Just say heaven

Thanks for answering though.

I must say I am surprised that it took nearly 36 hours for someone to respond to that post. I'm not surprised it was you.

The problem is this... Christ's return should be the ultimate event in our lives and the one thing that we are all waiting for with greater anticipation than anything else.

I can understand our friends in coastal Texas not having a chance to shoot of some thoughts on this - the most important pending event in human history. But I find it striking that no one had a comment before 36 hours elapsed. I'll be even more surprised if no one else has any thoughts.

If this site has truly become a place where the only person willing to have meaningful discussion is you, Echo, then that's too bad.
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#61225 - 09/19/08 04:33 PM Re: Christ's return [Re: Joel33]
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I must say I am surprised that it took nearly 36 hours for someone to respond to that post. I'm not surprised it was you.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I was off on vacation and that is why I couldn't respond sooner than I did.
I am glad to be home though. Vacations are hard work!

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Christ's return should be the ultimate event in our lives and the one thing that we are all waiting for with greater anticipation than anything else
I totally agree with you


So how would you reply to your own questions in the first post?


Edited by Echo (09/19/08 07:32 PM)
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#61235 - 09/20/08 03:01 AM Re: Christ's return [Re: Echo]
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Guess I'll throw what I think into the fray.

Are we done once it happens?

No. That would contradict the fourth question for me. I think the point of existence to to carry on, so how would having everything come to an end fit into that?

What happens afterward?

Afterward? Dunno. If I had to register a guess it would be like sleeping in a feeling of bliss. Years ago, I remember waking up some mornings in the summer, lying in my bed for hours just feeling amazing. Maybe it's like that?

What exactly are we waiting for?

I think everyone's waiting for a sign. People pray, people go to church for what; knowledge that there's something out there that will put meaning into their lives. So I guess everyone's just waiting for a sign to prove that their way of thinking was right.

Why are we here?

Self preservation. Other than that I really don't know. I say self preservation not with the usual "Oh we're here to push the human race forward" and all that other jargon; but in the sense that if we weren't meant to be here, we'd all have been either killed off or in a lot worse state by now.

Where are we going?

Going? Man, I don't even know where I'm going this weekend. I should hope that wherever I'm going later on will be nice, but I'll take a quiet place to relax and spend the rest of eternity in peace as well.

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#61237 - 09/20/08 04:37 PM Re: Christ's return [Re: SenorElMouse]
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I decided to not read anyone elses responses before I wrote my own... smile

Thoughts on the second coming of Christ...

Are we done once it happens?

Not exactly sure what you mean by "done". Done as in dead, nothing, nada?, Or done as will we no longer be required to "do" anything. I think we will still be used for a purpose in Heaven. I think based on how we used the gifts that were given to us and how we spent our lives will determine how the Lord will use us in Heaven. I think we will each have our own assignments of service.

What happens afterward?

All the dead will rise again and our souls will be reunited with our now changed bodies. There will be a separation of believers from non-believers and we will stand before the Lord and account for our lives. Then the Kingdom will be turned over to God the Father.

What exactly are we waiting for?

For Christ to come back, but I don't believe that will happen until the Gospel message reaches every ear.


Why are we here?

To spread the Gospel of Christ.


Where are we going?

I'm going to Heaven \0/ yay
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#61246 - 09/23/08 09:00 AM Re: Christ's return [Re: embie]
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Thoughts on the second coming of Christ...


cant wait. wish The Lord would come now. IT is in fact the Pinnacle of our Hope.

Are we done once it happens?

When Christ comes and takes the Church. We are not done. Scripture tells of the 1000 year reign. It also speaks of eternity with Christ.

What happens afterward?

eternity.

What exactly are we waiting for?

in eternity? Or now?
If now , we are waiting for CBrist to come for His Bride (the church). And to meet Him in sky and be ushered into Eternity.
(sounds crazy when you just read it back to yourself !)

iN ETERNITY, TIME WONT EXIST, WE WAIT FOR NOTHING. wE SIMPLY EXIST WHOLLY WITH OUR MAKER FOREVER.

Why are we here?

John 3:16. The great commission.


Where are we going?

We call it Heaven. You call it celestial, or terrestrial or something like that. The third heaven.
smile

Lord, dont pass me by...
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#61250 - 09/25/08 09:52 AM Re: Christ's return [Re: NABSTER]
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But I find it striking that no one had a comment before 36 hours elapsed.

Joel, where are ya? It's been 48 hours. laugh
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#61251 - 09/25/08 11:39 AM Re: Christ's return [Re: Echo]
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I didn't start the thread to share my thoughts

I only started it to hear others

my thoughts appear to be overly controversial
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#61257 - 09/25/08 11:34 PM Re: Christ's return [Re: Joel33]
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Share your thoughts. I think they are important, not controversial.
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#61268 - 09/28/08 09:00 PM Re: Christ's return [Re: Echo]
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we differ - so be it. It has been determined - you and "we" are secure in our beliefs. At least you arent awaiting 72 virgins like the Muslims....or Achmed the dead terrorist . smile
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#61270 - 09/29/08 07:47 AM Re: Christ's return [Re: NABSTER]
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SILENCE!!!

I KEEL YOU!
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#61271 - 09/29/08 07:59 AM Re: Christ's return [Re: Joel33]
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Originally Posted By: Joel33

I can understand our friends in coastal Texas not having a chance to shoot of some thoughts on this - the most important pending event in human history. But I find it striking that no one had a comment before 36 hours elapsed. I'll be even more surprised if no one else has any thoughts.

If this site has truly become a place where the only person willing to have meaningful discussion is you, Echo, then that's too bad.


Most everyone within a hundred miles of here didn't have electricity, some still don't. Once we got electricity back we had to spend time digging ourselves or others out. But you knew that smile

My beliefs are very similar to Nabster's, we have similar backgrounds. I don't see anything I disagree with in Echo's statements either. smile
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#61304 - 10/02/08 04:39 PM Re: Christ's return [Re: Allen]
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I on the other hand must be all wrong... slap
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#61346 - 10/07/08 11:13 PM Re: Christ's return [Re: embie]
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You were mostly correct smile

I don't see any differences between yours and nabster's answer. I'd like to hear Joel's take on it smile
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#61347 - 10/07/08 11:13 PM Re: Christ's return [Re: embie]
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You were mostly correct smile

I don't see any differences between yours and nabster's answer. I'd like to hear Joel's take on it smile
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#61355 - 10/08/08 03:42 PM Re: Christ's return [Re: Allen]
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When Christ returns it will usher in the Millenial era. The righteous will be caught up into a cloud and the earth will be cleansed by fire and the wicked will be burned.

When the earth is cleansed we will return to it and live in 1,000 years of peace as Christ reigns personally upon the earth.

Christ's return will also usher in the first ressurection and those righteous souls throughout history who have died will be resurrected and recieve their inheritance.

At the end of the 1,000 years all the righteous will have recieved their inheritance and those who were judged to have been less faithful will also have been resurrected to their station/glory.

Then we will be given all that God has be able to do what God does.
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#61358 - 10/08/08 05:55 PM Re: Christ's return [Re: Joel33]
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So Joel, does that mean that Mormons believe that everyone goes to Heaven, but your faithfulness on Earth determines to which level you are elevated?

Can you tell me what the various stations are called and what each one represents?

(...and I'm asking in earnest, not trying to be sarcastic at all...)
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#61363 - 10/09/08 12:06 AM Re: Christ's return [Re: embie]
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I believe we are living in the 1000 year reign right now.
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#61365 - 10/09/08 09:00 AM Re: Christ's return [Re: Echo]
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Echo???? what????
If Christ were reighning it would not be chaotic and full of filth. Can you use some scripture to show why you believe that???
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