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Hello everyone, thank you for such a great place to discuss current issues in Christian life.

If I may, I'd like to start a topic I don't see much of in my local paper or on the news - this will read something like "news of the weird" but be about issues and events I see around the world. If this isn't the correct forum, please, moderator, move it to the correct one smile

Something I was reading just now struck a nerve hard enough to make me register and post about it:

I have no relation to reality. I am talking about how things should be. In this interview on memri.tv (Arab TV) a sheik from Egypt is being interviewed regarding female sexuality and Islam. Money quote:

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In Egypt we have four and a half million spinsters. The definition of a spinster is a woman who has reached 30, without ever receiving a marriage proposal. We have a spinster problem in the Arab world, and the last thing we want is for them to be sexually aroused. Circumcision of the girls who need it makes them chaste, dignified, and pure.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">In a religion where "honor killing" is still common-place :gag:, we still see attitudes from the dark ages. At what point do women's movements see the need to stand up to the repression, brutality, bigotry and torture of millions of women?

Things that make you go "hhmmm..."


"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."

~ Martin Luther King, Jr.
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WELCOME!!!!!!!!!!!!


The current womens movement in America is far to concerned with the right to divest themselves of inoccuous growths (translate: unborn babies) than any real stirring global issues....

Good post!


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Thank you, I hope to stick around for a while smile

Noticed this week Iran has been releasing all kinds of new weapons in a show of strength for their military forces. Witness today the Invisible Flying Boat of Allah

I see their clampett mobile and raise them a noisy flying lawnmower of springdale

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MR. PRESIDENT, I'M HEADED TO MEXICO

David M. Bresnahan
April 1, 2006
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Dear President Bush:

I'm about to plan a little trip with my family and extended family, and I would like to ask you to assist me. I'm going to walk across the border from the US into Mexico, and I need to make a few arrangements. I know you can help with this.

I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passport, immigration quotas and laws. I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here.

So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Vicente Fox, that I'm on my way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:

1. Free medical care for my entire family.

2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.

3. All government forms needs to be printed in English.

4. I want my kids to be taught by English-speaking teachers.

5.Schools need to include classes on American culture and history.

6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of the flag pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying down.

7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch.

8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.

9. I do not plan to have any car insurance, and I won't make any effort to learn local traffic laws.

10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from Pres Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police officers speak English.

11. I plan to fly the US flag from my house top, put flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.

12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying taxes, and never say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on the economy.

13. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and never say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on the ecomony.

I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all the people who come to the U.S. from Mexico. I am sure that Pres Fox won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely. However, if he gives you any trouble, just invite him to go quail hunting with your V.P.

Thank you so much for your kind help.

Sincerely,

David M. Bresnahan


"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."

~ Martin Luther King, Jr.
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14. I plan on having a child while I am there so it will have citizenship and that my whole family can stay and get even more of the free things that are given away just like your WIC and Food Stamps and Vaccinations.


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If we could just get all that AND clean water wink


"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."

~ Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Flight 93 Voice Recorder Transcript

Released by Findlaw in pdf format, here's the text of it, which can be found here .

It’s absolutely chilling, but also inspiring to finally see an unedited picture of what happened aboard that plane. The transcript leaves no doubt that there was a furious struggle going on for control of Flight 93 up until the final seconds in Pennsylvania—and no doubt that those heroic passengers, who battled to the very end, prevented the 9/11 attacks from being even more devastating.

(sections in parentheses are translated from Arabic):

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09:35:33 — No, no, no. Unintelligible.

09:35:35 — Down in the airport.

09:35:39 — Down, down.

09:35:40 — I don’t want to die.

09:35:41 — No, no. Down, down.

09:35:42 — I don’t want to die. I don’t want to die.

09:35:44 — No, no. Down, down, down, down, down, down.

09:35:47 — No, no, please.

09:35:57 — No.

09:37:06 — (That’s it. Go back.)

09:37:06 — (That’s it.) Sit down.

09:37:36 —(Everthing is fine. I finished.)

09:38:36 — (Yes.)

09:39:11 — Ah. Here’s the captain. I would like to tell you all to remain seated. We have a bomb aboard, and we are going back to the airport, and we have our demands. So, please remain quiet.

[ ... ]

09:45:19 — (How about we let them in? We let the guys in now.)

09:45:23 — (OK.)

09:45:24 — (Should we let the guys in?)

09:45:25 — (Inform them, and tell him to talk to the pilot. Bring the pilot back.)

09:45:57 — (In the name of Allah. In the name of Allah. I bear witness that there is no other God, but Allah.)

09:47:31 — Unintelligible.

09:47:40 — (Allah knows.)

09:48:15 — Unintelligible.

09:48:38 — Set course.

[ ... ]

09:53:20 — (The best thing: The guys will go in, lift up the) ... Unintelligible ... (and they put the axe into it. So, everyone will be scared.)

09:53:27 — (Yes.)

09:53:28 — (The axe.)

[ ... ]

09:58:44 — (Oh Allah. Oh Allah. Oh the most gracious.)

09:58:47 — Ugh. Ugh.

09:58:52 — Stay back.

09:58:55 — In the cockpit.

09:58:57 — In the cockpit.

09:58:57 — (They want to get in here. Hold, hold from the inside. Hold from the inside. Hold).

09:59:04 — Hold the door.

09:59:09 — Stop him.

09:59:11 — Sit down.

09:59:13 — Sit down.

09:59:15 — Sit down.

09:59:16 — Unintelligible.

09:59:17 — (What?)

09:59:18 — (There are some guys. All those guys.)

09:59:20 — Lets get them.

[ ... ]

10:00:07 — (Is that it? Shall we finish it off?)

10:00:08 — (No. Not yet.)

10:00:09 — (When they all come, we finish it off.)

10:00:11 — (There is nothing.)

10:00:13 — Unintelligible.

10:00:14 — Ahh.

10:00:15 — I’m injured.

10:00:16 — Unintelligible.

10:00:21 — Ahh.

10:00:22 — (Oh Allah. Oh Allah. Oh gracious.)

10:00:25 — In the cockpit. If we don’t, we’ll die.

10:00:29 — (Up, down. Up, down, in the) cockpit.

10:00:33 — (The) cockpit.

10:00:37 — (Up, down. Saeed, up, down.)

10:00:42 — Roll it.

10:00:55 — Unintelligible.

10:00:59 — (Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.)

10:01:01 — Unintelligible.

10:01:08 — (Is that it? I mean, shall we pull it down?)

10:01:09 — (Yes, put it in it, and pull it down.)

10:01:10 — Unintelligible.

10:01:11 — (Saeed.)

10:01:12 — ... engine ...

10:01:13 — Unintelligible.

10:01:16 — (Cut off the oxygen.)

10:01:18 — (Cut off the oxygen. Cut off the oxygen. Cut off the oxygen.)

10:01:34 — Unintelligible.

10:01:37 — Unintelligible.

10:01:41 — (Up, down. Up, down.)

10:01:41 — (What?)

10:01:42 — (Up, down.)

10:01:42 — Ahh.

10:01:53 — Ahh.

10:01:54 — Unintelligible.

10:01:55 — Ahh.

10:01:59 — Shut them off.

10:02:03 — Shut them off.

10:02:14 — Go.

10:02:14 — Go.

10:02:15 — Move.

10:02:16 — Move.

10:02:17 — Turn it up.

10:02:18 — (Down, down.)

10:02:23 — (Pull it down. Pull it down.)

10:02:25 — Down. Push, push, push, push, push.

10:02:33 — (Hey. Hey. Give it to me. Give it to me.)

10:02:35 — (Give it to me. Give it to me. Give it to me.)

10:02:37 — (Give it to me. Give it to me. Give it to me.)

10:02:40 — Unintelligible.

10:03:02 — (Allah is the greatest.)

10:03:03 — (Allah is the greatest.)

10:03:04 — (Allah is the greatest.)

10:03:06 — (Allah is the greatest.)

10:03:06 — (Allah is the greatest.)

10:03:07 — No.

10:03:09 — (Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.)

10:03:09 — (Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.)


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The awliya—who live for His sake and die with His Name upon their lips.

They have sanctified death, they die with the name of Allah on their lips, and seventy virgins are waiting for them in Paradise...

Shahadah:

"There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is His messenger...Allah Akhbar"

Faithful Muslims will repeat this statement thousands of times during their lifetime...and hope and pray that it will be the last words to cross their lips before they die...

DA Note: References above back up what we were told (especially when dealing with radical Islamists/Jihadists) that the only way to get to Paradise is to have the name of Allah on one's lips in death. Remember Egypt Air flight 990? The replacement co-pilot was heard saying similar words as he plunged the plane into the ocean.


Also I heard the voice of the Lord saying who shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, here am I, send me...

The real test comes when all strength has fled, and men must produce victory on will alone...
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I just wonder what the reaction is when there are 70 thousand degree flames to great them instead of 70 virgins. It is amazing for a god that doesn't exist what kind of passion there is by it's followers. Interrupt their prayers they kill you. Interrupt my prayers I invite you to join. hrmm

You know in the muslim religion as in christianity there are many interpretations for Allah. Just as for Jehovah there are many different names. But unlike our Jehovah, there is not an interpretation for Allah meaning love...


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Ever wonder what the expression "stuck on stupid" meant?

Well here in the first picture is an example:



The grinning idiot clinging to Je$$e Jack$on is Cindy Sheehan... the sob sister protesting the war at Bush's ranch, who lost her son in the war, the same son she gave up in her divorce when he was 7 years old.

And by the way if you wonder why she has so much free time ... she is going through another divorce right now and guess what? She is giving up custody of another son.

As Forest Gump once wisely proclaimed, "Stupid is as stupid does."




What Is The Second Picture?



Obviously, it's a picture in a cemetery. What cemetery and whose grave?

Sadly, it's the grave of Casey Sheehan. After two years, and a DoD payment of $250,000 to the "Peace Mom", Cindy Sheehan has not had the time or bothered to have a headstone placed on this young hero's grave. And, she doesn't even have to pay for one, the DoD will provide one:

"The Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) furnishes upon request, at no charge to the applicant, a government headstone or marker for the grave of any deceased eligible veteran in any cemetery around the world . For all deaths occurring before September 11, 2001, the VA may provide a headstone or marker only for graves that are not marked with a private headstone.

Flat markers in granite, marble, and bronze and upright headstones in granite and marble are available. The style chosen must be consistent with existing monuments at the place of burial. Niche markers are also available to mark columbaria used for internment of cremated remains."

Apparently she can find time to protest on at least 3 continents, get arrested various times, go on vacation in Hawaii, have photo ops with the Marxists in Venezuela, but can't seem to find the time to properly mark her son's grave.

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wow... that's sad


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true nut case, I say


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On the news today she bought 5 acres of land near crawford to launch her future protests. No time for Casey's cemetary still.


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http://www.zombietime.com/wtc_9-13-2001/

These photos were taken at Ground Zero, the World Trade Center site in New York, on September 13, 2001.

They were taken by someone named "Ed" who was allowed into the area by a member of the emergency response crew, at a time when all civilians -- including most journalists -- were forbidden to enter the area. As a result, these photos are just about the only close-ups ever taken of the World Trade Center site so soon after the 9/11 attacks.


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WOW...


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That is truly sad that she has not taken the time to place a marker on her son's gravesite. frown


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Yes it is. Welcome WMCS123 wavey


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it's also false...

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The lack of a headstone may be false, but the general lunacy of the marxist/terrorist-loving nutjob is verifiable smile She took 2 years to wait to have one placed because she can't "citing her grief and unwillingness to acknowledge her son's death". Meanwhile she travels around the world to be seen with those who hate America (Hugo Chavez) et al while speaking out at every chance about her son's death. She was part of the group that placed hundreds of crosses protesting the dead soldiers yet she can't put a headstone at her son's grave?


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Just a little follow-up on the story:

It is much more true than it is false. I understand the headstone was placed May 27 2006, 783 days after Casey's death according to news sources. There's no record of when the email was originally sent out, surely > 2 years is more than enough time to get a headstone placed on a gravesite. The $250k in insurance money she rec'd upon his death apparently wasn't enough money to properly honor her son.

How did she spend her time instead?

- She traveled to DC in Jan. 2005 to speak at a anti-war rally

- She traveled to San Diego and San Francisco in March 2005 to speak at anti-war rallies

- She spent the month of August 2005 camped out in crawford texas protesting the war (during which she helped commemorate Casey's death by placing a white cross in a field) at her "Camp Casey".

- In Sept 2005 she made headlines for calling Hurricane Katrina (in which >1800 people died) "just a little wind and water" because she was angry attention was drawn away from her anti-war movement

- She protested in Washington, DC during September 2005, getting herself thrown in jail in the process

- In November and December 2005 she traveled promoting her book to back to texas, then chicago, london, ireland, and madrid, spain.

- In January 2006 she traveled to South America giving a liplock to marxist dictator Hugo Chavez in Venezuela.

- Back to DC later that month for more protesting. (another arrest)

- March 2006 - protesting in NY, NY (another arrest)

bah, my fingers are tired of typing. Here's a site that's a little over-the-top, but they have some decent info on her $2,500 a pop speaking engagments:

http://www.cindysheehanwatch.com/index.html

It was nearly June, after 43 speaking engagements in 2006 alone all over the world (including europe, canada and australia), prior to placing a headstone at his grave smash

During all that, she didn't mind posing lying on top of his grave for Vanity Fair in aug. 2005:

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