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#15124 - 01/14/05 04:24 PM Bible Codes?
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Anyone who studies theology knows that they exist, and there are many books that you can read that are very extensive on this topic.

As a definition, Bible codes are encrypted messages of bilblical prophecy hidden within the Bible.

The way these hidden messages are decrypted is by using something called Equidistant Letter Sequence AKA the ELS Theory, which proposed that by counting equal distanes between letters in the original Hebrew Torah, certain words and phrases could be uncovered that bore an undeniable relationship to the surface text.

For Example. take Isaiah 53:10. The surface text paints a picture of a suffering Messiah, but using ELS and counting from the yod (a Hebrew letter) and counting every 20 letters, we find Yeshua Shmi, which means, "Yeshua is my name." And if we look at Zechariah 7:4 and from the first yod count every 5th letter from the right to the left We will find Yeshua. In Leviticus 21:10, counting from heh counting every 3rd letter from right to left, we find hain dam Yeshua, meaning "Behold! The Blood of Yeshua."

Here is what the Biblical Review Magazine says about this"

The capacity to embed so many, meaningful related, randomly selected word pairs in a body of text with a cohernet surface meaning is stupendously beyond the itellectual capacity of any human being or group of people, however brilliant, and equally beyond the capacity of any conceivable computing device ("Devine Authorship?" Biblical review October 1995)

There are FAR more Bible codes than the few I listed, even relating to 9/11 and the assasination of U.S. Presidents and Israeli PM's.

Bible codes are REAL, and will challenge the most ardent skeptic concerning the origin of the Bible. It will also thrill and encourage the faith of Christians.

Read the Bible, Know the Bible, it is your gateway smile
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#15125 - 01/14/05 04:30 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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thanks. sometimes the Hebrew text is confusing. seen STIGMATA again last night. freaky. was she possesssed by a demon or aramaic ghost? COULDNT fugure that movie out, much contraversay about first release.

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#15126 - 01/14/05 04:32 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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You read Hebrew?
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#15127 - 01/14/05 04:34 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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in Bible. king james version. gotta eat again. took wrong tylenol , now drowsy. ugh. [female topic]. cant drive for awhile.

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#15128 - 01/14/05 04:38 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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KJV is still translated from Hebrew and Greek to English, but the KJV is very archiac in it's writing style, people just don't talk like that anymore.

It's still not the original Hebrew text, or it would be written in Hebrew.
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#15129 - 01/14/05 04:48 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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oh ok. like a tome. [;

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#15130 - 01/14/05 08:10 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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Anyone else have any info on this subject?
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#15131 - 01/14/05 08:32 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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yes, please. more info. the more i see the world news, well-its scary.

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#15132 - 01/16/05 06:13 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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PHILLIPPIANS 4;13 TEACHES US ABOUT tithing and ten percent. God wants us to give out of love and worship, obedience-not obligation. I appreciate Tim speaking today. it was deep! THANKS.

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#15133 - 01/16/05 08:09 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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go get the book "His name is Jesus" by Yakov Rambsel(spelling). Goes through old testament equidistant letters in detail. just more proof God is perfect in everything.
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#15134 - 01/16/05 10:01 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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thanks. sorry to misunderstand your post before.

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#15135 - 01/20/05 02:22 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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Very interesting. I've heard about it before. In fact, I was talking about it with someone last night. Not with the bible, but with Philosophy and Shakespeare.

It's too creepy for me.
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#15136 - 01/20/05 03:32 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ashley:
Very interesting. I've heard about it before. In fact, I was talking about it with someone last night. Not with the bible, but with Philosophy and Shakespeare.

It's too creepy for me.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hi Ashley!

Bible Codes are proof that God is REAL! Don't let it creep you out too much, the purpose of these codes is for our faith, and I also beleive that we're close to the rapture (though they have tought this for a looooooooooong time wink )

All the signs are here...

I'll post some more Bible codes this afternoon, just finishing up A server upgrade for a client smile
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#15137 - 01/20/05 08:46 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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Christians need not fret over the end, its to remind us we need to witness more. not to scare us. but wed be sad not to see loved ones, even strangers not in heaven with us. sure, we fear rejection or offending others . I say its worth it if to see them rise up with us upon Jesus' return! [; ID RATHER OFFEND THAN NEVER see em again. BUT HEY, JUST MY OPINION. yes, theres a chance we will suffer for our belief, even persecuted. our bodies here are only earth suits. we dont take with us. just our heavely body will rise[that i know of]. personsally, id rather be hurt here than live in hell later for refusing , denying like peter did . he had grace then. we cant take that chance for granted. may not have a chance to beg forgiveness if we deny Him. hope not too scary for ya. our side WINS!

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#15138 - 01/28/05 07:49 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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My dad said (I don't agree w/ everything he says, but this is his opinion) that the Bible code is of the devil. It's like witch craft. It's another way to try to decifer our futures just like a palm reader, etc, etc. Idk... I've gotten too close to getting into some wicked stuff. I try to stay away from anything I know would bring me into it. I know it would be WAY too easy for me to get hooked.
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#15139 - 01/29/05 12:14 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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not sure codes could be of the devil, the movie version may imply that. I see it as the 7th signs before rapture, like warnings for us Christians to witness to more , be better witnesses to others before they run out of time. we know where we are going. evil things will happen to, the devil will try harder to keep us from telling truth. even persecution for being Godly. the mark could be anything, a number , tattoo, bar codes on our hands to identify us, itll start out as to help us with fast checkouts at grocery, like a vchip. but also a way to trace us. hope not. just an observation. Id like to hear others thoughts on this subject. I want to be wrong about the mark.

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#15140 - 01/29/05 03:13 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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yeah like the mass earthquake and stuff... scary stuff
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#15141 - 01/31/05 09:49 AM Re: Bible Codes?
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your dad is wrong, clinging... codes are not scarey.God is giving wisdom and the codes are proof , further proof of His perfection. if you want to comment any further on this topic please do alittle internet search and read up a little.it is fascinating to the Christian...not scary, not devil , not evil, not witch craft. iT IS OF GOD AND ONLY GOD.
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#15142 - 01/31/05 09:50 AM Re: Bible Codes?
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it just makes you wonder when all this weird weather etc kicks up dirt. then there are politicians who swim around like sharks, oops i mean lawyers-power hungry wantin to take out our good leader.

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#15143 - 02/01/05 02:38 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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I know what the Bible code is, and I don't agree with it. However, I do see where you're coming from. At the same time God isn't going to dish the answers out to us, and in that way it is like getting your fortune told. When you look for ex. your name in the Bible with the Bible Code. I'm just taking what I have learned from the adults around me. With the Bible Code you're supposed to be able to look up ANY word, and see if you can find it. Therefore giving you the ability to see if your name or something shows up in the Bible. From my father's message I get that it's like getting your fortune told in that way. You look to see if you can find something foretold. That's just my opinion... I'd rather not get into an arguement.
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#15144 - 02/01/05 06:36 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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i UNDERSTAND, ITS ok. [; its a complex subject anyhoo. no harm done here. that i know of anyway. hehe

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#15145 - 02/01/05 08:09 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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BIBLE CODES ARE NOT PREDICTING FUTURES. IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS THEY REALLY DONT MATTER TO THE NORMAL CHRISTIAN.....LIKE ME. smile
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#15146 - 02/02/05 12:16 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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yes, what he said. [; we know WHO wins in the end, why fret the small stuff eh? OUR CONCERN SHOULD BE TO RESCUE sinners thru GOD. not in our own power. only God can truly rescue our hearts, souls to change for the better. its HIS will once we give our life to HIM? a person can merely introduce God to sinners. its still up to thjat person to ask forgiveness and accept GOD'S WILL.

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#15147 - 02/02/05 02:45 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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yeah I agree! It doesn't really matter to me, but at the same time it's not really something I like. This guy today said that Christians were overrated that he was a "Christ follower"... then he called me a Christian thinking it would insult me.
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#15148 - 02/02/05 05:46 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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dont fret it. he got issues like all of us. itll be fine. he may be flattered if you showinterests or ask questions about ''male'' topics like macxhines or computers etc. if genuine of course. it ll make him feel smart. helps his ego. not to stereotype, i do have 2 brothers. i know how they can be.

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#15149 - 02/04/05 03:38 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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huh... ya lost me...
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#15150 - 02/04/05 04:33 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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LOST YA, YEA-I GET THAT ALOT ON HERE. IF everyione was psychic, would not have to type again. hehehe Im a loner, and any male friends overlook my potential due to chemistry or lack of. Im not after chemistry in the biblical sense, not goin there til married again[if], otherwise will be a new nun.

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#15151 - 02/04/05 07:19 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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awwww...

I'm sure there's some one out there for you
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#15152 - 02/04/05 08:16 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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im ok with it either way at this point. used to it. i can easily meet the wrong guys. buy no men. theres a difference. [;

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#15153 - 02/04/05 08:47 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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I want a guy... there's this guy at school... he's crazy and seems to be really sweet! I'm juss too shy to tell him
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#15154 - 02/04/05 09:37 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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HE MAYBE SHY TOO, SOME HIDE BEHIND HUMOR or acting crazy. I dare you to say hi. see what happens. at least you can take pride in trying , evben if he doesnt respond. you took a chance. bet yur braver than id be. i was a loner at 14 too.

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#15155 - 02/05/05 07:22 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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I talk to him... he sits beside me in English... I always seem to drop my pen or pencil and he always picks it up... he's starting to count how many times I drop it... the funny thing is I don't do it on purpose!!!
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#15156 - 02/05/05 08:23 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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but he notices. dont forget to study your Bible for advice too. not just here. and pray also. we are still human and God has the best intention for you, better than us here. am happy for you though. [;

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#15157 - 02/08/05 07:37 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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yupp!!!! I can't wait to see him again!
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#15158 - 02/09/05 09:11 AM Re: Bible Codes?
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its having someone to look forward to during this month. [;

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#15159 - 02/10/05 07:50 AM Re: Bible Codes?
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haha... I guess I can wait cause I missed school the past 2 days!
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#15160 - 02/10/05 01:57 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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how is your friend, are you avoiding school because of him or just in general?

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#15161 - 03/19/05 11:37 AM Re: Bible Codes?
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I suppose that if I really wanted to see something in anybook I could create some sort of system or mathimatical sequience to get exactly what I want to see. How were these so called bible codes decifered...I find it hard to believe that someone just happend to see every second letter, plus three, devided by six, to the power of two and VOILA....A whole new prophesy hidden for a thousand years! Seems ridiculous to me!

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#15162 - 03/19/05 02:30 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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i agree...
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#15163 - 03/20/05 08:19 AM Re: Bible Codes?
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it isnt prophecy. it is , for instance the name of Yahweh inserted specically equidistant letters apart multiple times in the old testament. it is the name of certain leaders throughout history. it is as if God knew who those leaders would be and placed their names in the Bible in such a way as to prove Himself sovereign once again to many of those who dont beleive His word is perfect.
it is not prophetic in nature as for predicting things . it is showing knowledge of historical things and people already past but penned and written before they came to pass.
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#15164 - 03/20/05 01:35 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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awesome, ty for clearing that up. God bless you!

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#15165 - 03/26/05 01:52 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Anti-Freewiller:
I suppose that if I really wanted to see something in anybook I could create some sort of system or mathimatical sequience to get exactly what I want to see. How were these so called bible codes decifered...I find it hard to believe that someone just happend to see every second letter, plus three, devided by six, to the power of two and VOILA....A whole new prophesy hidden for a thousand years! Seems ridiculous to me! </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's ok to be skeptical, I was at first. But I believe that Bible Codes are the signature of God himself.

Sir Isaac Newton was one of the believers in the existence of Bible codes. Back in the day they used a primitive numerical decoding system, scientists and scholars uncovered messages encrypted in the text of the Bible. This was long ago, and until now (due too computers they were nearly impossible to find) the coding remained untapped.

Now we have powerful computers and thousands of hidden messages have been found placed strategically throughout the Scriptures relating to the surface text.

For you skeptics, can you explain that?

Scientists are even baffled saying that it is statistically impossible for an encoded phrase in this ancient text to make sense, yet it does. Not only do they make sense, but some are prophetic in nature.

Not all but some of these coded do reveal the future of the world, which does make some of them prophetic, but unless you know what you're looking for it does not tell the future before it happens.

For instance, Scientists have even uncovered references to thing of our time: The assassination of Prime Minister Rabin, WWII, the Moon landing, the Gulf war and even 9/11.

These codes confirm the existence of God!

Many scholars and mathematicians believe the codes prove, without a shadow of a doubt that God exists. These same scholars and scientists were skeptics (agnostics, atheists) until the Bible codes proved the existence of an intellect so vastly superior to man that all theories and arguments of the naysayer collapsed.

You think that the codes are simple?

The Bible code is simply beyond our human intelligence. Our greatest minds cannot even speculate how the code was created.

For man to re-create this kind of code is simply beyond our current scientific abilities even with the worlds most sophisticated computers at our fingertips.

If your thoughts on this subject are influenced by someone elses views, study it for yourself with the proper information and you will no longer doubt.

And for those that think this is the work of the Evil One, you're also wrong. This is God.

In Daniels prophecy of the end times God said:

"Go your way Daniel, for these words are concealed and sealed up until the end of time. Many will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand, but those who have insight will understand" Daniel 12:8-10

The Evil One had something to do with all the different Christian Denominations (to separate the Church), but he had nothing to do with Bible codes!

I wish everyone here peace and love during this resurrection weekend.

Praise God!!! smile
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#15166 - 03/27/05 03:01 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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it would be okay if all it was was typing in Yweh... but what it is is a program where you can type in ANY WORD and see if it shows up... go to www.gbcjc.com go to sermons and listen to the sermon called "Can I?"
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#15167 - 03/27/05 06:38 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by ClingingtoMyRockEternal:
it would be okay if all it was was typing in Yweh... but what it is is a program where you can type in ANY WORD and see if it shows up... go to www.gbcjc.com go to sermons and listen to the sermon called "Can I?" </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That link you posted is dead. There is special software for this, not some stupid software that you can get online, it's not trustworthy...

Whatever the case may be, these codes are found while studying the original Hebrew and Greek Texts (not the English Bible).

Shalom wink
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#15168 - 03/28/05 02:05 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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it wasn't dead when I clicked on it... :-

I guess it kinda depends on what you believe...

Rachel
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#15169 - 03/28/05 05:50 PM Re: Bible Codes?
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True.

But if the codes are only found when studying the "orignal" (Hebrew) texts, they are real whether someone likes it or not.

I think that one of our posts claims that it is the work of Satan. Do you really think that Satan penetrated God's word?

I don't think so...

Lehitra'ot smile
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