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Pastor Phillip has been going through the book of John verse by verse on Wednesday night and the teaching has been tremendous (
yes, I did finally make it there )

. Tonight we began John, chapter 15, and he brought up some very good points that relate to the fruit of the Spirit.
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John 15:1-5
"I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener.
He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful.
You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you.
Remain in me, and I will remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.
"I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.
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- Unless I am completely surrendered to Christ, where I find my life in Him, and He is allowed to live in me - I am, and what I do, is fruitless.
- I can cast out demons, heal the sick, call Jesus Lord, know all about Jesus and even be called a disciple and hold a title, but still be fruitless.
- It's not up to me to bear fruit, it's up to me to live in Jesus and allow Him to live in me.
- Pruning and cutting back is a natural process of life - it is done, not to punish me, but that I may be more fruitful.
- As I remain in God's Word, I will continually expose myself to God's cleaning, pruning process, which will enable me to bear more fruit.
- Significance can only be found as we abide in Jesus
- The evidence of being a true follower of Jesus is not gifts of the Spirit, but fruit of the Spirit.
Some excellent points... bearing fruit is not an automatic process, but one nurtured through pruning and cleaning - something that can be quite unpleasant. This "no pain, no gain" philosophy can tear us down, but only because we are pruned back so that we grow and become even more fruitful that we would have otherwise... As Steve said in his last post, talking the talk doesn't mean we are bearing the fruit, it's all in our
walk. Remaining in Jesus isn't a rest break, it's an ongoing process of pruning, growth, and maturation...
Then we begin to bear fruit...